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MONET Bio-Medical Task Group Meeting - Amsterdam,
27th January 2003
Present:
Peter Lucas, George Coghill, René Quiniou, Janet Thomas.
Apologies: Hidde de Jong.
Agenda
1. Welcome
2. Aims of the Biomedical Task Group
3. Domain Status Document (already sent around)
4. MONET Funding and organisation of scientific activities
5. Composition of the task group and establishing contacts
6. Future Task Group meetings
7. AOCB
1. Welcome
This was given by Peter Lucas.
2. Aims of
the Biomedical Task Group
B1 - The BioMedical Domain Status Document is now complete and will
be sent to the European Commission with the MONET First Annual Report
at the end of this week.
B2 - The BioMedical roadmap version 1. There will be a meeting at
the end of April 2003 to complete this task.
B4 - BioMedical workshops. George is dealing with several different
people on this issue, including Derek Linkens. There are plans to
possibly have an "open discussion" forum with three EUNITE
and three MONET speakers. There are also plans to have a workshop
at AIME in Cyprus in October 2003. Plan to submit a proposal on
QR and MBS in BioMedicine - the deadline for this is the beginning
of March 2003. Pedro Barahona who works in QR functional modelling
in medicine, is the person responsible. Peter has contacted him,
but is still waiting to hear back at present, which he will follow
up.
B5 - This is already being looked into via links with EUNITE etc.
Many people in the field are also already working on this. Also
B1 will form the introduction to this work, providing a picture
of where synergies lie. Thus, it will feed into it
3. Domain
Status Document
George firstly thanked Peter for all his outstanding work on the
BioMedical Domain Status Document.
There was some discussion as to whether the task group could profit
from this work - could it be used as the basis of for a survey paper,
as it looks at what other people are doing in the field? Further
work could be undertaken on this over the next twelve months and
it may then be suitable for a journal publication, possibly AI in
Medicine or Knowledge Engineering Review? Alternatively it could
be used as the basis of an editorial to go with one of the proposed
workshops. The first step would be to organise a workshop, then
to publicise that this will be published in an official journal.
4. MONET
Funding and organisation of scientific activities
There is the possibility of invited speakers for the workshop as
funding should be available.
Outputs and Papers - standards are very high for AIME, but interested
in papers from workshops, so should be in a reasonable position.
The AI journal is also interested in BioMedical work, when there
is emphasis on the modelling aspects.
Other special issues or activities - these will depend on what comes
of the EUNITE/AIME/MONET collaborations. After the end of both workshops
a call for papers for a special issue will be put forward, combining
the work of both workshops.
5. Composition of the task group and establishing contacts
Several people who already work within the field were suggested
to be approached regarding participation within the Task Group.
George and Peter are going to contact these people to gauge their
interest in joining the Task Group. These people are detailed in
the following table:
| Ross King |
UWA |
| Pedro
Barahona |
Lisbon
University |
| Luke de
Haas |
Pharma
DM |
| Derek Linkens |
Sheffield
University |
| Ivan
Bratko |
Ljubliana
University |
| Elpida
Keravnou |
Cyprus |
| Michel
Dojat |
Grenoble |
| Steve Muggleton |
Imperial
College, London |
| Stefan
Schulze-Crema |
Germany |
| Bjorn Alsberg
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Trondheim
University |
6. Future
Task Group meetings
The next Task Group Meeting will take place in Pavia, in June 2003,
at a date to be finalised.
There will be further meetings at the workshops in July and October
2003.
7. Any Other
Competent Business
There being no further business, the meeting was closed.
Bio-Medical
Task Group Meeting - Pavia, Italy, 6th and 7th May 2004
Attendees
George Coghill University of Aberdeen
Peter Lucas University of Nijmegen
Rene Quiniou University of Rennes
Liliana Ironi IAN-CNR, Pavia
Stefania Tentoni IAN-CNR, Pavia
Iain Russell MONET Project
Day One
(6/5/04)
Overall Discussion
B1 - Has been produced and requires updating. PL spoke to Simon
Parsons and he
feels that this would make a good Knowledge Engineering Review (KER)
Article.
B3 - Has been produced and requires updating.
B4 - Done.
B5 - Synergies Document. We are not necessarily experts in all the
fields we need to cover in this document, but we have enough of
an understanding of the issues.
Plan for Project Extension - The Task Group would like to look for
further work and also the continuation of the Bio-Medical Task Group
after MONET2. At the April 2004 Project Review our Project Officer
suggested that the Quality of Life - Genomics call was
an area we may look at. The group agree that they wish to continue
the work of the Task Group after the period of MONET has ceased.
There is the possibility of focusing on methodologies and showing
that we cover the combination of the clinical and biological areas,
i.e. show the areas and show the advantages of the methodologies
that we propose.
We could widen our view to take in Model-based
Approaches and not necessarily just model-based reasoning
and then look at a particular problem and show the complementarities
or combinatory advantages of these approaches.
AP 1: Iain to discuss this with Pepé would a model-based
approach to biomedical problems fit within a Framework 6 proposal.
Would it make sense to combine the following communities to find
the solutions to just a couple of problems / applications. [think
ERA] Ask Pepe if we can invite a person(s) to speak at the Roadmapping
meeting, from outside MBS&QR community, i.e. not a MONET Member.
List of complementary Communities:
Probabilistic Graphical Models
Machine Learning
Bio-Mathematics
Bio-Engineering (NOT Bio-Physics)
Fuzzy Logic
Medical Decision Making
The interaction of these communities is very important, it can lead
to new ideas and the integration of methodologies can result in
new and more powerful methods.
[Good area for Roadmap maybe look into inviting people from
these communities to Bio-Med RM Meeting].
Bio-Medical Domain Status Document
Peter will act as editor. The KER article (c. same length as current
version) but.
format will need to be changed from a report to an article,
however the structure makes sense and so should be kept. There are still areas that are
not covered, or not covered in sufficient detail. We could split Section 2 into methodologies
and insert a new Section 3 tasks. We should focus very closely on
the methodologies that have been applied in the bio-medical domain. The document should be completed
with a Discussion / Future Work section.
AP 2: Peter will email out request for input to the rest of the
Task Group.
Next meetings: Aberdeen 13th & 14th September and a final one
on 10th and 11th of January in Rennes. This will take place in December if the extension
to the project is not granted.
Roadmap Document
Need to include people from healthcare and bio-medical industry.
We should email specific people and ask them to attend or send representations.
This input does not necessarily need to be from model-based experts, what we need is
a view of where future research will be going in the healthcare and bio-medical
domain as a whole.
Suggested contacts: Peter Vitatron, Hugin, Imperial (Welcome),
Rene ELA Medical, (John Fox Cancer Research / Infermed).
We should get feedback and then work on this document in Aberdeen
and then send it out to Industrialists after the next major version is done and
it is more industrially focused.
Synergies Document
A format has been proposed by George, this was developed into the
following;
Section 1 - Introduction
Section 2 - Model Categorisations
Section 3 - Methodologies and Tasks
Bayesian Networks and Qualitative Causal Models
Fuzzy Systems and Qualitative Reasoning (also Fuzzy
For Diagnosis)
Qualitative Reasoning and Neural Nets
Drug Design
Qualitative Reasoning and Machine Learning (Inductive Logic
Programming) -
include in Domain Status Doc as well
Section 4 - Discussion and Future Work
Day Two (7/5/04)
Experts to draft a brief of what will be included in the Synergies
Document, which should focus on structure of sections and some content that gives
us a clear idea of how much work there is to do. This should be emailed to Peter by
Wednesday, 12th May 2004.
AP 3: Task Group members to send their text to peter by this
wednesday, he
will compile, add a draft introduction and distribute.
Final text to be sent to Co-ordinating node by 21st June.
The Task Group will also consider if there are any events that would
be useful for outreach activities, although the time scale is short. They will,
however, think of who they could invite to speak at a TG Meeting or consider some conjoining
with the ECAI workshop. This could be used to discuss continuation of the TG after
the MONET2 period has finished.
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AP
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Iain to
discuss this with Pepé would a model-based approach
to
bio-medical problems fit within a Framework 6 proposal. Would
it
make sense to combine the following communities to find the
solutions to just a couple of problems / applications. [think
ERA] Ask
Pepe if we can invite a person(s) to speak at the Roadmapping
meeting, from outside MBS&QR community.
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AP
2:
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Peter
will email out request for input to the rest of the Task Group.
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AP
3:
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Task
Group members to send their text to peter by this wed, he
will
compile, add a draft introduction and distribute.
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Bio-Medical Task Group Meeting - Aberdeen, 13th September
2004
Attendees:
George Coghill, Peter Lucas, Liliana Ironi, Iain Russell
Minutes
Discussion
on definition of QR
The group tried to agree on how broad / narrow a definition was
to be applied within the Documents from this Task Group.
Discussion
of Documents
ACTION - use a non-sans serif font for these documents (times
new roman). And cannot is one word. And rework rir's word doc
from the latest pdf to ensure they are both the same.
Synergies
document - needs completing. We are late on this, a document
exists but more work needs to be done on it to make it a complete
and coherent document. It has proven quite difficult to edit this
document as it is on so many fields (which maybe worth mentioning
in introduction). Synergies with Mathematic models are not very
well developed in this document. Dependant on the definition of
'AI Approaches' there is actually very little that could not be
covered by this document, so we should focus on approaches that
have been 'developed' within the AI community and thus cut out
many of the more traditional (mathematical, for example) approaches.
In Pavia we tried to come up with a categorical definition of
what we feel the document should cover. This is not an easy process,
especially as we tried to give this a hierarchical structure and
to link the approaches methodologically. One method for completing
the document would be to list the different approaches then put
in a final section which looks into the synergies / possible synergies
in the past.
We
should extend introduction and we should lose Section 2 as this
attempts to come up with a general framework for the area and
this is probably a couple of years work, not just a few months.
We should then ask the people who worked on the document to complete
their section now they can see then whole document.
ACTION
- Peter Lucas will take out Section 2 put in header for final
section 'Meta-synergies' and then send current version out to
members for comment and work. Feedback by the end of September
and to be submitted to the Commission at the end of October.
DSD
needs to be discussed and rewritten. This is already a coherent
document and needs to be revised with what we think is still valid.
The TG will have this prepared for the end of December and then
re-written (when fresh in mind) at Rene Meeting in January.
BM
RM - Liliana has many comments. Also suggests tabulating some
information for clarity. The TG worked through the Document, one
thing we agreed upon was that this is a collection of perspectives
and it would not assist the document to attempt to create a coherent
document, but to show as many relevant perspectives as possible.
ACTION
- Iain to look into turning section 4 into a table (to reduce
replication) with explanations.
PGM
Meeting
Look into amount of money that would be left over after Renne
meeting and see if we can give some money to Peter (maybe two
or three peoples travel / accommodation etc.)
ACTION
- Contact René about Rennes Meeting dates / place. René
states that he is still happy to host the meeting and suggests
the period 2nd to 18th of January 2005.
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